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In that case only, 2-pass with file-size control is recommended. And trust your eyes instead of the misleading advices about the bitrate. It is perfectly possible to encode a clean movie with a very low bitrate. Just find the good CRF value for you, and use it for all movies. Thank you for the very good detailed answer. So I'll try with CRF 12 and let's see. Thanks for the continued updates to this most excellent app! Hi, I'm trying to rip my UK? I've ripped a bunch of other films and they all went fine.
Problem is with Avatar it has some automatic subtitles for the Na'vi speak, so there's 2 English sub tracks, but every time I render the movie with BD3D2MK3D these subtitles are getting squashed together, so every single line in the movie gets a subtitle.
Obviously what I want is the original experience with just subs on the Na'vi speak. I always end up with a single Eng sub track, or with none. I've tried separating the 3D planes, just selecting one of the Eng sub tracks, selecting both, selecting everything etc. Thanks in advance for any help. Last edited by fish; 20th Mar at I don't remember right now how the subtitles of Avatar are authored.
Unfortunately, in an original BD, there are two possibilities to author the forced subtitles the Navi subs in Avatar : The complete English subs and the forced subs Navi can be in their own streams. This means that there are at least two physical streams with the same language code.
It's the most frequent case, and the easier to understand. You should only need to determine precisely in what stream the subtitle you need are authored, and select that stream in MakeMKV. With this method, the MakeMKV " forced only " sub-streams are useless and can be ignored.
Usually, the first stream available in a specific language contains the complete subs, and the second the forced subs only, but in rare circumstances, that can be the opposite, or the second stream can contain specific subtitles like the subtitles for hearing impaired, or the director comments.
The only way to be sure is to play the original BD with a good player, that doesn't swap the subtitle streams. Of course, it does not hurt to select all streams in the languages you are interested in, just to be sure to rip all potentially useful streams, but you will have to determine what stream contains what later, with a player and BD3D2MK3D.
The second authoring method is when the forced Navi subs are mixed in the same stream, with all English subs, and simply individually marked as forced with the "forced" flag. MakeMKV offers always an option to extract the forced subtitles "sub-stream" only.
You should select it and if you are sure that you don't need the other subs, leave the other subtitle streams unticked, to have less confusing streams in the final MKV. See the example I've uploaded the Russian forced sub only is selected.
I suggest to tick all streams, including the " forced only ", in the language you want to include in the final SBS. You should be able to determine later what stream to use with a good player. Unfortunately, a MKV file cannot contain subtitle streams with some subtitles marked as forced and others not, so the only method to leave the two possibilities to the user is to include the two streams.
I suggest to use PotPlayer , but any player that doesn't change the order of the streams should be OK. In the player, select each subtitle stream one at a time and play various segments of the movie until you are sure of the content of each stream. So, there is nothing really difficult, but I agree that the lack of preview in MakeMKV and the two different authoring methods of the forced subtitles can be confusing. Anyway, the secret is to determine the content of each subtitle stream, including the forced-only sub-streams, with a good player, and note their order.
Most of the confusion comes from the fact that many players change the order of the streams without a good reason. Originally Posted by fish Attached Thumbnails. Last edited by r0lZ; 20th Mar at Thank you for your time and the very detailed reply I'm having another go at rendering the movie now so I'll look out for errors and have a look at the log. Also I will check the resulting movie in Pot Player and see what sub tracks are present.
Thanks again. Right, had a look at the log and there's definitely an error with the default Eng subtitle track track 8. Btw I realize now that the 2 Eng Subs aren't getting smushed together, just the failed track 8 is missing. Track 7 has subs for all dialogue including the Navi stuff. OK, I'm not very surprised. I wrote this in my previous post:. Originally Posted by r0lZ. Is it a warning in the command prompt window when you begin the encoding? Please verify that there is no mutually exclusive arguments.
In particular, the preset and level specified in the GUI are passed automatically, and they may not be compatible with your arguments. Anyway, you should not need the quotes in the arguments. They are passed to the command as you have typed them, and with the quotes, the whole content will be considered as a single argument. Honestly, I'm not sure that specifying arguments yourself makes much sense. Currently, the Presets are very well designed, and usually, the commands lines found on the internet give less good results than the equivalent preset.
So, imo, unless you really need to specify some arguments, you should avoid them. If you can understand the problem, and if it comes from the way BD3D2MK3D handles the command and the additional arguments, please let me know.
I may have to fix a bug I did a short test, with CRF 18, preset slow, tune none, force level 4. What player or hardware do you use to play the final MKV file? Anyway, verify that Avisynth is properly installed. Last edited by r0lZ; 29th Mar at This may have always been present or recently included and I missed it.
Could you perhaps add a "3d test preview" option? Something where it will only encode say the first 5 or 10 mins of a film? This way you can check the file much sooner in my case SBS and make sure everything is set as it should be before wasting a good number of hours only to find you needed to adjust some other options before encoding.
Yes, this has already been requested several times. Unfortunately, I can only limit the encoding to a certain number of frames, but it is not possible to encode a specific segment somewhere after the beginning of the movie, because the MVC decoding is sequential. It cannot skip some frames and continue later. So, the short answer is : it's not implemented because it's not possible. But you can easily limit the encoding yourself to a certain number of frames. I faced this problem today.
Your additional parameters are incorrect. And, BTW, it doesn't make much sense to encode with preset ultrafast the most basic preset, giving very big file sizes and trying to fine-tune it with additional arguments. The ultrafast preset should be used only for testing purposes, when the encoding duration is more important than the video quality. I can only repeat what I wrote above:. Hi r0lZ, First of all thanks for keeping the tool up-to-date. Second, I have maybe a stupid question.
Since I'm no expert whatsoever encoding blurays to. Now, the size and bitrate is good, around 7GB and Overall 9. Looking good. Then I convert a live action Bluray with lots of fog, fadeouts, sparkles, FX, crowded scenes After using the same simple parameters I get around 5GB of size and around 6. Further inspection shows blocking and some faint color banding.
I compared the same Bluray with a scene release and the scene release doesn't have those artifacts, and the video stream is HUGE in comparison. Around 13GB with I understand that there's no apparent benefits on tinkering with settings while using x compared to, for example, x as it is well matured and the codec will do all the work properly considering frame-by-frame analysis, and that my solution would be using a lower CRF like 17 or 16 , but I would like to understand: Why does it encode so differently from one Bluray to the other?
Why does the quality and size diminish? Like the scene release. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Last edited by slit; 18th May at Thanks for the thanks. Have you read my reply here? It doesn't answer exactly your question, but it's a good introduction on how CRF works. I wrote, among other things, that normally, encoding in CRF ensures a constant quality, regardless of the "difficulty" to encode the movie such as grainy images.
So what you wrote surprises me. It's the first time I see someone obtaining different qualities with the same CRF value. I think that the size of the video can be explained by the nature of the image. You wrote that there are scenes with fog, for example. Fog reduces the contrast, making the image smoother and easier to encode. Also, CRF is smart enough to compress more the objects moving rapidly or the whole scene when the camera moves rapidly , because the eye cannot see the defects when the image changes rapidly.
That means that if you analyse a fast moving scene frame by frame, you will probably see some defects not present in the quiet scenes. IMO, it's a quality. A film is not made to be stopped and analysed. It must be perceived in its continuity. It's almost the same encoding, but without that kind of optimisation.
Of course, for the same overall bitrate, the quality of the quite scenes will be slightly less good for the benefit of the fast moving scenes. The problem of the banding is well known. To compress the video efficiently, the encoder begins by removing the grain and the noise from the image. Most of the time, that's OK, but in certain scenes usually in smooth shades of blue, like in underwater scenes this has the effect of creating more or less visible banding artifacts, because the natural dithering has vanished, in favour of pure coloured stripes.
There are two solutions for that problem, but none is totally satisfactory. By testing these two very powerful players on 3D playback, I could make an interesting experience before me and I thank Basthi by the way. The program is free and available for Windows and Mac users. Then a small window will appear with several tracks to rip or not the Blu-ray 3D. Just select the ones you want to keep. Will be removed preferably all the trailers and clips, which are the smallest tracks up to 5 GB , keeping only the main movie.
Drop in the main movie, you can see that you can select an MVC box. The video is not re-encoded and retains all the qualities offered by the Blu-ray 3D. This allows for not too heavy MKV. Even with this shedding MKV, it will still be quite heavy with more than 30 GB as a reminder was still two video streams. This manipulation works even read Samba, or via USB without jerking.
You can always download the latest version from makemkv. Eventually MakeMKV will not require administrator privileges to run. Produced MKV files are not degraded in any way and have no time or usage restrictions. Do you need something besides.
In colusion, EaseFab Blu-ray Ripper is a better choice you may need. The mac version is Blu-ray Ripper for Mac. Click the button on top left corner to add 3D Blu-ray movie to it. Double click the video, you can preview the movie in the right side. That depends on your 3D hardware. You are commenting using your WordPress. You are commenting using your Twitter account.
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